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You know in Hong Kong they have the same tag on/tag off system on the trains and buses and from the traveling around I did on the public transport system there I found (in my personal opinion) it worked fine. Everyone has their Optopus cards in their wallets and they just swipe them on/off. From what I remember, people got on at the front of the bus and then got off at the back door, so the flow of passengers was fine. I really don't think its as big a deal as you're making it out to be.
I can't speak for the Victorian ticketing system but I'd kill for that here in Sydney with the slow-assed ticket machines in the buses.
Does it support joining two modes of travel?
Does it support joining two modes of travel, where one has to walk 500m to get between the two modes because of substandard transport infrastructure? If not and you are simply expected not to scan your ticket again until you get to your ultimate destination, then we lose the ability to get off at Burnley station late at night, walk on down to the road, look at the tram timetable, and give up in frustration, and walk directly to East Richmond. I hope this then means that they are going to increase tram frequencies by an order of magnitude, so I never have to give up and walk home. P.S Your test for "Session-Hash" is broken.
The government claims that, in terms of zones and costs, the new system will work exactly the same way as the old one - so whatever you could do with that, you should be able to do with myki. However, given the pointless changes to weekly, monthly and yearly tickets that they have just made, I'm not inclined to believe them anymore and I see this as a very easy way for them to bring in pay-by-distance point-to-point payment. Which would make using public transport incredibly expensive and would likely just encourage people to stay in their cars.
You sir are over-reacting.
Perth has had a fully integrated smart card system since jan '07 and its the best thing that has happened to the public transport system. I stopped catching public transport about 8 years ago because of the mess with tickets and multi ticket punch thingies and the simple delay with getting on and off from huge queues at ticket machines. Started again this year and the new system is great, faster on and off. Basically no pausing getting on or off public transport at all, tag machine at every door, and at turnstyles at every station. Just tag as you go past. But then of course its done properly over here. If you're a student, primary, secondary, tertiary your student card is a smartrider card. The old biddy digging for her ticket is never a problem, its her Senior's card, you can bet she knows exactly where that is, its the only thing that makes it possible to live on the joke that is the pension. Oh and its also integrated into the parking ticket machines at the train stations. Plus it works out much cheaper than buying the old tickets everywhere even when you didn't really need them.
Ash, people blocking doorways while searching for their ticket are already a problem *right now*, with the current system. The difference will be that in future, they will be not only blocking them on the way in, but on the way out too.
It's worth noting that in London they changed buses and trams to flat fares to get around the problems of masses of people tagging on and off.
Anybody who doesn't think it's a problem should take a look at the doorways of a Melbourne tram in the CBD at lunchtime. |
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